I have several customers asking to replace Flash with HTML5 streaming on video center.
I would vote on this a million times if I could!
There used to be a tweak to the URL that forced the HTML5 stream but I'm unable to find the syntax or determine if it's still active. Perhaps someone from LifeSize knows the answer.
I have been asked this by about 30 of our employees. Flash is dead and a resource hog. We would really like to watch things in html5 on both mobile and personal laptops. Especially on the on premise VC
We really need to enable our users to watch video conference recordings and live streamings at UVC LifeSize Video Center without installing Flash.
Due to security reasons Flash is not installed in our company as a standard. So, HTML5 would be highly appreciated!
Really hope this is in the works. Flash is being killed off left and right. Adobe themselves declared it's dead. Need an HTML5 version of VC asap. We are already getting complaints that nobody can watch streams from their phones. If LS cant upgrade the on-premise to HTML5, it will be the end of videocenter.
Have you generated a Mobile Format for the recordings?
Under the edit properties for a video you can click on Manage Video Formats at the bottom. Generate a mobile format and then try viewing on your mobile devices like iPhone which do not support Flash.
If that's what's missing then you can add the mobile format generation to the Recording Key so that it creates it at the time of recording.
Hope that helps,
This is strange. It worked on iphone 6s with safari. But not with android on like 3 browsers i tried.
The one thing I don't get, I always setup mobile versions for every recording by default for more reasons than just the compatibility with mobile devices. The mobile stream gives you a full unsegmented video with the slides embedded but I always understood the PC's would always default to the flash version. As far as I can tell, I do not have flash installed on my PC but I never seem to have any issues viewing anything on video centre. I'm sure HTML5 is coming but video centre has been on the back burner for a bit longer than I was hoping.
The UVC Video Center is Flash only on PC/Mac (unless there's a magical URL that is rumoured here, or you change your User-Agent to fake it). Are you running Chrome? Chrome comes with Flash embedded as part of the application and is not required as a separate install.
Stuart is correct, the stream is flash. This is from our LTS documentation on UVC: LTS - 5 UVC Video Center
It does not explain the issue with the android stream, but I know the there are statements in the same deck to this effect:
** Note: Streaming to iOS-based mobile platforms is fully supported through UVC Video Center. Android platforms have not been officially tested nor are they supported.
At the same time, there are settings for mobile streaming that allow you to set the HTML5 stream, as lhoffman mentioned. Slides 22 and 23 cover the recording key settings in the 5th LTS deck, also. The images are bit blurry viewing online, but they are not when you download the pdf: https://community.lifesize.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadBody/1613-102-4-2945/LTS%20-%205%20UVC%20Video%20CenterMT.pdf
Hope some of that helps for now. No change to the need, I know.
We are adding video center to our new support pages (pending website) and our web develops have done backflips on the problems the see with flash and video center. I would vote this up a million times if I could. we are having to download videos from Video Center, put them on YouTube and constantly correct for access and perceptions of flash issues.
I think Apple just killed off watching videocenter on IOS. I am able to watch on IOS 9.2.1 but not 9.3.1 and no matter what browser i install, non of them play videocenter videos. 9.2.1 works fine though
watching videos on videocenter with iOS 9.3.1 works on my iphone 5c and ipad with safari and chrome.
Which Iphone do you have and build?I just wanted to mention that not a single Iphone 6S works. 6S Plus and ipads seem to work fine. I really hope they are not killing off support
I have an iPhone 6S on iOS 9.3.1 and have no trouble viewing videos on 2 video centers that I've tried.
Mine works on videocenter.demo.lifesize.com. Check yours out on that video center just in case it's a version issue of video center problem on yours.
Thanks Les, that one worked. I guess our videocenter server is messed up.
I have asked Support to reach out to you to work with you on the issue that you are experiencing.
I'd be happy to take a look at your Video Center if you'd like. Are you creating mobile compatible formats with your recordings? If not you can add them after the fact.
Works for me too.
I haven't upgraded yet but I've always had issues logging into Video Centre using safari only on my iPhone, my iPad works fine. When I try logging in from my phone with Safari, the page refreshes back to the homepage not logged in. This isn't a huge deal for me but I find it odd that this happens.
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Forgot about this one from 2015, I created an idea asking for this very same thing only 2 years later. Looks like this still must be "under consideration". Video Centre is almost becoming unusable with all of the flash issues people are reporting to me. Most of our users do not have install rights on their office machines or the knowhow to enable flash plugins in their browser. We certainly aren't going to make flash more available on campus for the sake of video centre. Many of our Faculty bought into Video Centre when they purchased lifesize systems and i was led to believe this product was still alive and kicking after the rest of UVC went away. Something should have been done about this long ago.
Whenever anyone has expressed similar concerns about Video Centre, nobody has ever really come come out and reassured us that this is something that is going to be fixed. The product hasn't been touched in at least 3 years. Glad to see you found a workaround for this, it would be better if it was just resolved outright instead of customers having to develop something on their own especially when lifesize has "let go of flash" as of sept 2016 on Cloud Amplify. I think it's time to let it go on Video Centre as well
Letting Go of Flash
Are there any news from LifeSize about HTML5 support for videoconference live streaming and recording solution(s) ?
The Cloud based record and stream solution already uses HTML 5 however the on premise Videocenter does not (this community idea is requesting that it be added).
We've used Video Center since v 1.0 and hosts quite a few of them. The truth is, as people find out, that this platform has not been upgraded or cared for since 2014 or even earlier. Updates the last few years, until Lifesize pulled the plug out of UVC, has mainly been platform updates (e.g. security patches) but no updates on compatibility and certainly zero features being added.
For me that is pretty normal in this industry, platforms lasts only so long. What I don't like is that a company continues to sell licenses and service agreements on a platform that they can't support and do not develop on anymore.
Since the platform was updated with support for HTML5 streaming many, many years ago, it would be so easy to update the platform so PC/Mac could run HTML5 instead of Flash. Easiest would be to have the option to disable Flash streaming as a default setting and only run HTML5.
I get what you are saying in terms of product life cycles but generally the new product coming in is superior to the old, making you want to switch. The limitations of record and stream that I have already mentioned make it impossible for me to recommend it as a replacement for video centre. It's a little silly that something like this can't be added. I can say for a certainty that even if this was the only feature that was added, we would continue to buy recording licenses and continue to purchase endpoints for lecture recording purposes. When different departments bought their own endpoints we were usually able to get them to purchase recording licenses as well, we are no longer mentioning recording licenses for video Centre. What bothers me the most is how unclear lifesize has been with us about video centre and the road map. I've was told long ago that development would eventually ramp up again and that there was potential to allow a cleaner integration with cloud. We need a way to control access to content and not have to do this through the cloud directory, we have a much more advanced directory structure in house that makes things so much easier to control access to content.
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